Oprah Through the Years, Part 15 — Up Against the Wall

About Oprah Winfrey’s childhood, we know that the earliest part of it was spent with her single mother and her grandma, in an unstable and impoverished existence. It is hard to find information on whether she was overweight. From age nine she was sexually abused by two family members and an unrelated person, and at 14 gave birth to a child who died soon afterward. Then, she went to live with her father.

Although that situation was an improvement in many ways, she was still not okay, and said later, “The deepest pain I carried was believing I was unworthy.” The combination of shame, uncertainty, and a conviction of one’s own lack of value can certainly cause a person to find solace in food, if it is available.

From a medical source we learn that very young (11 to 14) pregnant patients are more apt to have obesity. It does not seem clear whether they start out that way, but this seems a likely possibility because the insecurity caused by being overweight can make them easy targets for predatory males. Another study concluded that teen births are associated with becoming overweight or obese later in life. Yet another affirms that…

Many teenage mothers struggle with proper nutrition during and after pregnancy. This can lead to long-term health problems, including obesity, diabetes, and osteoporosis.

We have said enough already about Oprah’s rise through the ranks into a stellar career, but this post intends to track the dark side of it, the period when she was doomed to participate in the general culture of fat-hating and fat-shaming. Her media career seemed in some ways to drift toward “specializing” in overweight, often with her own buxom figure as Exhibit A.

Probably no one else in history has so publicly shared the personal battle with obesity. The intensity of the fixation waxed and waned as other subjects captured her attention, and increased professional opportunities and personal initiatives took over. Somehow though, weight always seemed to remain a bedrock foundation of concern and obsession.

The Joan Rivers debacle

In an earlier post we mentioned the mindset of a fat-hating culture, and here is an ugly example of it. The year 1985 dumped Oprah right into a psychological river filled with rapids and sharp rocks: a TV appearance that was a striking example of the anti-fat trend, so extreme she felt compelled to bring it up almost 40 years later.

Oprah, who had just entered her 30s, appeared on The Tonight Show, with comedian Joan Rivers as guest host (and inquisitional prosecutor of heretics). The raucous Rivers did not set the precedent for speaking out against fat, but she definitely endorsed it. Clare Stephens for MamaMia.com transcribed the dialogue, which is edited here for length:

Rivers: So, how did you gain the weight?
Oprah: I ate a lot.
Rivers: You shouldn’t let that happen to you! You’re very pretty.
Oprah: (begins to say something)
Rivers: I don’t want to hear! You’re a pretty girl and you’re single, you must lose the weight.

Decades later, Oprah recalled how the audience laughed uneasily as Rivers wagged her index finger accusingly, while Oprah wanted nothing more than to crawl under her chair and hide. She reflected on the incredible rudeness of a host marring the national television debut of a younger woman by scolding her for her weight. And still, Oprah wasn’t off the hook. Rivers then mentioned a young singer who, according to her, was very chubby and needed to lose weight — and then went on to justify her own uncouth behavior by cranking the outrageousness up a notch:

You must tell a friend the truth! You must say “You’re still a pig, lose more weight.” That’s a friend.

Still stinging from exposure to this vicious mindset, a few months later Oprah, at almost 200 pounds, began hosting her own TV show in Chicago.

Your responses and feedback are welcome!

Source: “The Oprah Winfrey Success Story,” TheStrive.co, 01/27/23
Source: “Rising from the Ashes: The Story of Oprah Winfrey’s Transformation,” Substack.com, 01/26/25
Source: “Pregnancy before 16 increases long-term health complications for girls and babies,” Utswmed.org, 04/11/23
Source: “The Effects Of Teenage Pregnancy On Physical Health,” CatchNutrition.com, 11/04/24
Source: “In 1985 Joan Rivers asked Oprah a Question,” mamamia.com, 05/13/24
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Oprah Through the Years, Part 14 — What’s in a Word?

Back in 2010 Oprah Winfrey admitted to her audience, “I’ve never liked the term ‘food addict.'” Of course, over time, she had casually referred to herself as one of them, because it was the hip terminology, and because this is what a popular personality and influencer does. It’s the first lesson a stand-up comic learns, too. Start out with self-deprecation. Make fun of yourself, and the crowd will be on your side. Oprah went on to say,

I realize that I really have been one. And believe me, I — like so many of you — have punished myself for that. But I know that I’m not alone, and I know that the battle hasn’t ended.

In late 2023 the star confirmed that she was taking something, and made a public statement about how her thinking had evolved:

I had an awareness of [weight-loss] medications, but felt I had to prove I had the willpower to do it. I now no longer feel that way.

Some critics objected to her breakup with WeightWatchers, seemingly on the grounds that nobody should ever be allowed to change their mind, even when they recognize that previous moves may have been less than brilliant. Many people, having dared to move in a new direction, have been shocked to find it was not tolerated by either friends or the public.

Oprah described the benefits of changing her mind about the medication. The widely-quoted statement says,

The fact that there’s a medically approved prescription for managing weight and staying healthier, in my lifetime, feels like relief, like redemption, like a gift, and not something to hide behind and once again be ridiculed for.

As part of the 2024 Teapot Tempest, Vanessa Romo of NPR reported that Oprah intended to elevate the conversation, advocate for health equity, and work to reduce stigma. In particular, her intention was to ditch shame, both the kind dispensed by others and the brand she manufactured herself. She was finished with five oppressive decades of feeling like, “Why can’t I just conquer this thing?,” and refused to believe any longer that a lack of willpower was a personal failure.

Meanwhile, she was hiking, hydrating, timing her meals more sanely, and still tabulating WeightWatchers points. Because, and this is a very important point that people would rather not acknowledge — you still have to do the work.

Further thoughts

A few years later, Oprah spoke of having had a revelation while moderating a panel on weight:

I realized I’d been blaming myself all these years for being overweight, and I have a predisposition that no amount of willpower is going to control. Obesity is a disease. It’s not about willpower — it’s about the brain.

She then consulted a doctor and was prescribed one of the new meds. On the shame issue (and many other matters) we see how Oprah adjusts her mind around new information, and can bring a large portion of America along with her. She has become something far more potent than a mere “influencer,” and is perceived as a moral arbiter.

This too led to her separation from WeightWatchers, which is a whole saga in itself. She added, “For the people who think that this (medication) could be the relief and support and freedom that you’ve been looking for your whole life, bless you.”

The part about obesity being a disease in the brain, is complicated in and of itself. Ultimately, everything is brain-linked in one way or another. And the connection between obesity and lab animal brains is different in quantity and quality from the connection between obesity and human brains. A person can think, “As long as I will need to wash a bowl anyway, I might as well have a large serving of stew, because that will justify using up the dish soap to wash just one dish.” No lab rat is capable of that quality of reasoning!

In the 2024 TV special, Oprah revealed,

All these years, I thought all of the people who never had to diet were just using their willpower, and they were for some reason stronger than me. And now I realize: y’all weren’t even thinking about the food! It’s not that you had the willpower; you weren’t obsessing about it!… I’m not constantly thinking about what the next meal is gonna be…

How many times have I blamed myself because you think, ‘I’m smart enough to figure this out,’ and then to hear all along it’s you fighting your brain.

Your responses and feedback are welcome!

Source: “The Highs and Lows of Oprah Winfrey’s 50-Year Weight Loss Journey,” MSN.com, 2024
Source: “Oprah Winfrey Reveals She Uses Weight-Loss Medication as a ‘Maintenance Tool’: ‘I’m Absolutely Done with the Shaming’,” People.com, 12/14/23
Source: “After nearly a decade, Oprah Winfrey is set to depart the board of WeightWatchers,” NPR.org, 03/01/24
Source: “Oprah Winfrey says she has released the shame of being ‘ridiculed’ for her weight for 25 years,” ABCNews.go.com, 03/19/24
Source: “Oprah Winfrey reveals she starved herself ‘for nearly five months’ in ABC weight loss,” USATODAY.com, 03/18/24
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Oprah through the Years, Part 13 — As a Co-operative Endeavor

We were discussing the book It’s Not Who You Know… It’s Who You Train, which Oprah collaborated on with Bob Greene. It starts with “Oprah’s Story,” and she also wrote chapter introductions. The amount of impetus that she gained through association with him is incalculable, perhaps partly because it has been a learning process all around. With luck, nobody comes fully formed to any relationship. With more luck, and maybe one or two other conditions, a healthy relationship is beneficial to both parties.

Greene is quoted as saying, “Two of the most accepted ways to deal with stress are to overeat and be a workaholic.” And it sounds like Oprah had been doing both, for a long while. But even here, there is ambivalence. For many people, the workhorse lifestyle has its advantages. Labor is a socially acceptable displacement activity for excess brain energy, and is generally more beneficial than overeating.

The person’s health may suffer in either case, but at least a workaholic is probably able to keep up with the bills. But there is a catch. Displacement activity, even the culturally approved kind like overworking oneself, is not always helpful… not when it is the symptom of a problem which, sooner or later, some effort ought to be made to fix.

It had to end

Oprah had been falling back on what, if viewed in a certain light, might seem like the perfect excuse. For a long time, she simply believed she did not possess willpower, just like she didn’t have blue eyes or size 7 feet. Ever since Greene began to influence her life, Oprah was obliged to think about his questions like, “Why is food my drug of choice?”

But at some point, the cognitive dissonance must have become impossible to ignore. Perhaps one morning, she awakened to the stark reality that sometimes, two things simply cannot both be true at the same time. Eventually, this paradox would become impossible to ignore. There must have been a day when Oprah asked herself something like this: “Let’s face it, I am famous and wealthy and most gloriously loved. If I don’t possess willpower, then how did I accomplish so much in terms of tangible, recognizable, undeniable success?”

Maybe this opens up an entirely new realm of possibilities. Maybe having willpower is not enough. Maybe the whole issue of avoiding obesity isn’t even about willpower. Or maybe Oprah had as much willpower as anyone, but it just wasn’t being properly deployed. Or maybe, in this instance, willpower was basically not the right tool for the job.

When things don’t add up

In 1988, a slim version of her former self had told the worldwide audience, “If you can believe in yourself, and believe that this is the most important thing in your life… you can conquer it.” But four years later, her weight almost hit 240 pounds, so obviously, an element was still missing from the equation.

The international star had been working intensely for years on projects and programs, using her sharp mind and many talents, not only to further her own career but to help and honor hundreds of thousands of people in ways both tangible and inexpressible. Oprah was stepping up in a brave new role. Her relationship with the world was changing, and so was her relationship with herself.

In 2020 she took a gigantic step in a fresh direction by featuring someone other than herself on the cover of O, The Oprah Magazine. This was Breonna Taylor, the medical technician who had been killed by police under extremely dicey circumstances. It indicated a new direction.

It might be useful to understand some things about Oprah’s decision-making process and the values behind it and so forth. We also speculated on how the different vocabularies used in various academic disciplines could obscure the fact that sometimes, wise and learned people might be talking about the same thing, and possibly with basic agreement on some essential point, even on the verge of finding philosophical harmony — but language gets in the way.

When a huge number of people are in trouble for wanting what they want, such as to indulge an insatiable appetite; and if that seems to others to be an undesirable condition or outcome; then perhaps the trick is to figure out why the person wants what they want. Helping Oprah to decipher this vital matter might be the main function that mentor Bob Greene has served.

(To be continued…)

Your responses and feedback are welcome!

Source: “It’s Not Who You Know… It’s Who You Train,” ChicagoTribune.com, 08/19/21
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Oprah Through the Years, Part 12 — Bob Greene, Willpower, and Motivation

The previous post included some of the thoughts Dr. Pretlow has published on the subject of will/willpower. Now we look at precepts passed on to Oprah Winfrey by her longtime health and weight management coach, Bob Greene.

As reported in a Good Housekeeping article by Kate Coyne, the first inquiry that one should make to oneself is, “Do I have poor willpower?” As suggested in Part 8, the answer to that, in Oprah’s case, must have been an overwhelming “No!”.

Then comes a harder question: “Why is food my drug of choice?” For everyone who has ever engaged in a battle with their own body fat, figuring that out is a much more complicated challenge, which most folks apparently never quite manage to meet.

Possibly that difficulty is connected with the second Greene precept — taking responsibility. No fair blaming of family members, or job stress, or any other external factor. “If you’re offering up a lot of excuses, you’re wasting your time.” What is the antidote to time-wasting excuses? Stating goals, and making a solid commitment to meet those goals. It might help to draft a contract with oneself, and officially sign it — with the same degree of seriousness that one would give to any other binding legal document.

Adhere to your contract

An interesting feature of Greene’s philosophy is that he emphasizes the concept of willpower — “Your inner strength is most important” — and as suggested previously, perhaps everyone is naturally endowed with a great amount of inner strength, and the problem lies in their tendency to use it for different purposes, such as resisting any change in lifestyle or behavior.

Greene realizes that behavior change might have a better chance if it is introduced gradually, so don’t embark on an ambitious structured workout plan right from the jump. Use stairs instead of elevators, and if there are errands you can accomplish on foot, do that rather than drive. Walk the dog twice around the block instead of once. Just kind of creep up on change at first, and that deep-down revulsion against exercise might remain dormant. Then, follow his plan for a gradual increase.

The same goes for food, he advises. At first, cut out about 10% of the customary caloric intake; start learning about simple versus complex carbohydrates; cultivate a taste for vegetables; and enjoy a little bit of fat. And then, look into timing. At least three hours before sleep, stop eating. And over the long haul, expect ups and downs. There may be discouraging periods when it seems like nothing changes, so rather than give in to hopelessness, figure out how to cope with that.

Who you know

In 2021, Greene published a book titled It’s Not Who You Know… It’s Who You Train, referring of course to Oprah, who also had a hand in the authorship. Weight loss isn’t the main thing, but wellness is. Achieve a higher level of general wellness, and most people will find that weight loss comes much more easily. A person can lay a solid foundation for success by identifying and dealing with their emotional issues, and by pinpointing their counterproductive methods of stress alleviation and substituting more helpful ones.

An uncredited Chicago Tribune reporter wrote,

Although he was schooled to treat weight as a physical problem, his experience working with overweight people made it clear to him that psychological factors are crucial. Greene learned to probe for the reasons people seek comfort in food. “We need to start thinking about their motivations,” he says.“When I started employing that philosophy, that’s when I started having extreme success.”

Actually, maybe the motivation question is not that mystifying. Even an amoeba knows enough to take action to avoid pain. It probably also seeks pleasure. At any rate, Green provides a list of 10 habits which, if followed, will make a significant difference. One can will oneself into doing some things. For instance: always look for a way to turn a minus into a plus. Greene recognizes, for instance, that Oprah faces a lot of obstacles, starting with an inherently slow metabolism.

But even that, he turns into a plus, by acknowledging the stumbling block she deals with, and praising her for overcoming it:

“She can look at food and put on weight,” he says… “That’s why I think she’s one of best examples for other people… For her to get on the cover of Shape, I know how hard she needs to work. It’s harder than [it is for] 99 percent of the people.”

Your responses and feedback are welcome!

Source: “The Healthy Way to Lose Weight,” GoodHousekeeping.com, 04/05/04
Source: “ It’s Not Who You Know… It’s Who You Train,” ChicagoTribune.com, 08/19/21
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Oprah Through the Years, Part 11 — Concepts of Will

The previous post drilled down into the concept of will/willpower, and as predicted, this and the next two mention some thoughts from three prominent individuals: Robert Pretlow, M.D., Bob Greene, and Oprah Winfrey.

Dr. Pretlow

Years ago, after studying messages from many children via his interactive Weigh2Rock website, the Childhood Obesity News founder pointed out the futile and intractable nature of a mental/emotional mechanism that ties in with the overeating that is the chief cause of childhood obesity. Sadly, the child involved may resist any intervention, and show “classic, addict-like behaviors of obfuscation, rationalization, deflection, lying, cheating, and denial of their struggles.”

This also connects with the “willpower vicious cycle” in which a child finds resisting the excessive eating behavior so stressful that the resistance itself generates a (perceived, not actual) need to cope with that stress by eating even more; followed by an awareness of failure and sense of guilt that creates yet more stress and… well, we can all see where this is going.

That discussion was connected with the idea that “although the addiction basis for obesity remains a debate, addiction treatment methods may still be evaluated.” In particular, we are talking about the smartphone app and obesity intervention tool known as BrainWeighve, which additionally serves as a research tool for refining addiction treatment and finding ways to overcome treatment resistance.

… Which leads back to willpower

How so? It takes plenty of determined resistance to fight off the efforts of caring parents, attentive school officials, a concerned government, and a very well-equipped and competent medical profession. It is quite possible that kids who resist help in the struggle against obesity do not lack willpower at all. They have plenty of it, and are simply employing it counter-productively by resisting the wrong thing.

Quite some time ago, Dr. Pretlow began speaking and writing about the displacement mechanism:

Moving the opposing drives out of equilibrium, by resolving a person’s problems (displacement sources), theoretically should halt the displacement mechanism and might comprise an intervention for overeating/obesity, as well as other addictions. If the individual can either face or escape from the problematic situations, the displacement behavior of overeating should stop on its own without struggling and without willpower.

Stating this another way:

The displacement mechanism may be a useful basis for treatment of eating addiction and obesity and may provide individuals with hope that they can curb their addiction without relying on willpower to not overeat. If the displacement mechanism accounts for overeating, then targeting this mechanism in treatment should facilitate significant reductions in overeating without necessitating willpower to eat less.

Could it be that displacement intervention (problem-solving, rechanneling excess brain energy), is just another way of saying “willpower”? Is it possible that the brain energy is not even excessive, but only misdirected? Maybe we need all of it, and maybe it is just like the will — a neutral force that can be used to achieve good or bad ends. Perhaps the problem is not how much of it is present or absent in the person. The whole problem may be how that capacity to want something is set to work in the real world.

There is also the tendency of willed results to be self-replicating. Will can lead to success, and success can lead to more willpower, because success feeds the will. Some people have found that even a tiny bit of will, pointed in the right direction, can fan the flame and strengthen their will’s overall potency. For some people it works that way; for others, it does not. If there is to be hope of achieving anything, a recurring concept presents itself: the impossibility of creating a one-size-fits-all program.

Your responses and feedback are welcome!

Source: “A Smartphone App Platform for Treatment of Obesity Using the Addiction Model,” Weigh2Rock.com, 2015
Source: “The displacement mechanism: a new explanation and treatment for obesity,” Weigh2Rock.com, 2010
Source: “Reconceptualization of Eating Addiction and Obesity as Displacement Behavior and
a Possible Treatment,” Springer.com, 06/22/22
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Oprah Through the Years, Part 10

This definition appears on many, many web pages:

Will is that faculty of the mind which selects, at the moment of decision, the strongest desire from among the various desires present.

A lengthy online search reveals two things:

1. The only reference anyone seems willing to use as a footnote for that quotation is Wikipedia.
2. Philosophers will argue all day about the tiniest nuance of the concept, including whether there is a difference between “will” and “willpower.”

Will is often known as “free will” with good reason, as any desire, however strong, is futile unless one has the freedom to impose one’s will upon the environment (including oneself and other people) in order to fulfill that desire. Someone chained in a stone-walled pit could possess the most awesome will in the world, and still not be able to use it.

The series “Breaking Bad” and other popular entertainments in the action genre are fascinating because they illustrate prodigious feats of willpower exerted in extreme situations. Anyone who gets excited about such a TV show or movie can probably be depended on to recount at tedious length an impressive escape sequence.

One definition of will begins with, “Arguments for free will have been based on…” — and what does that even mean? The notion that free will exists at all? Or “for” in the sense of being in favor of it, as in, “Free will is a good thing”? And even those few words are misleading, because they assume that will and free will are the same thing.

The initial quotation, about selecting the strongest desire, runs into a problem, because a paralyzed person can will all day long, “I will move one finger” and no matter how strong that intention is — even if it is the strongest of many various desires — it’s not going to happen, which would imply a definite lack of power. So how could will and willpower be synonymous? It would seem that will alone is not enough, and that power is a separate and distinct factor here.

Getting a grip on will

Philosophers might explore the theoretical notion that everyone has the same amount of willpower. Could it be that (leaving aside the possibility of organic brain damage) every human is born with willpower, even an enormous reservoir of it, or at least as much as anyone else? Then why are the end results so different? Can a person grow, cultivate, or otherwise obtain more willpower? Can a person steal someone else’s? Or take a pill and get some? Can a human renounce willpower, as religious doctrines recommend? Apparently, it is quite possible for someone to put aside their own desires and live instead by the will of a deity, or karma, or fate.

Why does will so frequently go wrong? Does the problem lie in whatever particular end the person is willing or wanting? Can someone who sincerely wishes to die find a way? Should they be allowed to? When someone’s strongest desire is apparently to weigh 800 pounds, should they be allowed to? If not, who should stop them? And how? To what extent should an individual be permitted to follow the dictates of her or his own will? To what extent should a population be expected or forced to accede to the willful desires of a political leader?

Fortunately, this venue is not where such matters are decided. Here we are concerned with the individual. If a person gives the appearance and displays the behavior of someone wanting a harmful condition or outcome, what can be done? It would seem like the trick is to figure out why that person wants what they want; and then to help them internalize the concept that it would be better if they wanted something else instead; and then to somehow teach, lead, or persuade them into wanting something else instead, and then help them figure out how to attain the desired dénouement.

Rather than be sidetracked into researching Plato, Spinoza, Descartes, Schopenhauer, et al, subsequent posts look into what three contemporary authorities (Robert Pretlow, M.D., Bob Greene, and Oprah Winfrey) have said about will and willpower.

Your responses and feedback are welcome!

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Oprah Through the Years, Part 9

The previous post explored the idea that perhaps willpower is a neutral quality that can be either helpfully used, or dreadfully exploited. It has a dual nature, like so many things in life, as portrayed by the ancient yin-yang symbol.

The piece also proposed that no matter what ailed our subject in the years when her weight bounced up and down, or soared as high as 237 pounds, her accomplishments in several fields are undeniable. Whatever else might be thought, or said, about her, one thing is for certain: Oprah Gail Winfrey has never experienced a shortage of the energy we know as willpower.

Some might point out that many people have struggled with weight issues, so why choose her as a case study? But… is there anyone more suitable? Data is the basis of research, and who else on the planet do we have more information about, and more pictures of? And just as an extra bonus, Oprah happens to be a very sharing (some might say over-sharing) individual when it comes to revealing facts about herself. How else would we know how much she weighed in 1992?

Speaking of oversharing, that 1988 fat-wagon show-and-tell session that she later regretted was actually brilliant. (Third photo down on this website: TV is a visual medium; movement is an essential part of it, and what else could seize the attention like a ginormous 67-pound blob of fat in a little red wagon?

A mortifying fiasco

But in the history of show business, many a brilliant publicity stunt has turned out to be an embarrassing mistake, which is what happened here. Before long, Oprah had to admit that the benefits of four months on a liquid diet had gone into reverse the moment she started eating normally again. A recent article by Clare Stephens, Executive Editor at Mamamia, articulates the two distinct reasons why the incident was so regrettable. Years later (2011), as a guest on Entertainment Tonight, the star described it as “One of the biggest ego trips of my life” because:

The ego was my belief that being in those Calvin Klein jeans made me worthy as a human being, or more valuable, or made me better.

But disproportionate self-regard, however pathological it might be, is an individual problem, and a matter for discussion with one’s spiritual advisor or psychologist. The second reason why Oprah called it a mistake is much more far-reaching, especially for one whose sphere of influence is the entire planet, as Stephens explains. It was tantamount to an accusation, a stunt that stigmatized fat to an audience of millions of humans, mainly women, with the implication that they too could shed their extra poundage if only they cared enough and were smart enough to make the required effort.

Messing with their self-esteem

As Oprah later acknowledged, the wagon demonstration basically “set a standard for people watching that I nor anybody else could uphold.” But rather than reining in an unhealthy tendency and cutting short a harmful trend of thought, the wagon episode was only the start of further years of maintaining and upholding a diet culture that “has far more to do with aesthetics than health.”

Oprah’s famous quotation about how “all the success doesn’t mean anything if you can’t fit into your clothes” was a scathing indictment of women (and men) everywhere. It belittled wonderful parents who happen to be fat, regardless of how beloved and beautifully raised their children might be. It denigrated overweight workers who have no time or money to join a gym. It dismissed overweight artists, no matter how outstanding their creations might be. It criticized people who struggle with the genetic misfortune of being born with large frames and bodily systems that do not process food optimally.

“It means the fat won,” Oprah declared, which amounted to labeling a vast number of her devoted fans as losers. But, as Stephens points out, Oprah was not an “aberration,” not just some weirdo who hated fat people and didn’t mind letting them know — but a particularly noticeable individual articulating the mindset of a fat-hating culture.

Your responses and feedback are welcome!

Source: “In 1985 Joan Rivers asked Oprah a Question,” Mamamia.com, 05/13/24
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